Update for users.

After twenty-eight hours of most interesting efforts to get stuff shifted from Websynthesis to Wefixtech, we have everything in place on Wefixtech and just need to shift the MX record over ... This involves getting Demon to shift it over, which is not feasible until mid-January. (Arse.)

The problem is that topbit has been having problems with mail on Websynthesis. Yesterday, we were told that Velvet needed to go, now. (Which was rather unfortunate timing.) This evening, Alister says that he has put into place valid user check (so that opportunist spam gets rejected immediately), and that the mail situation is now much better. What he says he won't guarantee as of tonight is that he won't feel he has to do this again.

Since we can't get any assurance that the mail will get through, at the moment we're looking at narnee having to go back to Glasgow immediately to sort this out. Which trashes her holiday and pretty much everything she wanted to do with it. This is, understandably, less than ideal. So we're still hoping to sort out things at least keeping working until mid-January, when it can be shifted from Websynthesis to somewhere more capable.

Our apologies to Velvet users, we're doing our best and will keep you updated!

oh shit! moving to wefixtech at short notice

narnee just spoke to the admin of her host, and he's cutting off's mail as of 24 hours from now (though I'd hope he'd go longer, given it's a bank holiday, but we'll see). As such, I'll be trying to set stuff up on for her and Velvet's many users. wefixtech isn't the height of reliability, but arkady and I are highly contactable and hawkeviper is when he's not being all gooey and domestic ;-)

The web hosting on Velvet may not move immediately, as there is a site or two that should not be hosted in the US (wefixtech's box actually lives in the US). But we'll be doing our best to get the mail working ASAP, as there are several users whose mail is their main account, many of whom read this journal!

Assume mail to anyone at isn't going to get through — it hasn't as of Sunday evening as far as we know. Sahra can be contacted in the meantime on sahra at

Update: Alister is now helpfully tarring up the mail directories to put them somewhere Tony can fetch them, and will update the MX record when we have the infrastructure in place. Your mail is safe! The pop3 and webmail host will probably change, I'll let you know promptly. More news as it comes.

all smiles and bemusement
  • narnee

The End of Velvet Networks

Velvet Networks will be shutting down in its current form. I had hoped to give a full thirty days' notice and an exact day of when the server will be turned off but that has unfortunately proved to be impossible. Instead, the server will become unsupported in fourteen days on Monday 14 March 2005 and will cease sometime in the following week of Monday 21 February 2005. Unless you are continuing domain hosting with us or have a legacy account, please ensure that all your necessary data is downloaded from the server as I may or may not keep backups of any data left on the server when it is taken down and that you have made other arrangements for web hosting, email hosting, Usenet access, etc.

Although Velvet Networks is ending as a homemade and home-run server, there will be a smaller incarnation of Velvet Networks; I have not yet chosen a new solution but all the options I'm considering are professional hosting companies based outside of the US (for reasons of privacy and security) who offer an uptime agreement and shell access. If you would like to keep your Velvet Networks account but did not receive a legacy account email previous to this one, please let me know by Monday 7 March 2005 inclusive if you would prefer a full account or an alias and I will do my best to ensure that you get to do so. Priority will be given to users who have made one or more donations from 1997 to the present day.

Donations made in the past year can be returned at the discretion of the donator regardless of whether it has been used. If you would like your donation returned to you, please let me know by Monday 21 February 2005 inclusive -- if I do not hear from you by that date, I will assume you do not want your donation returned.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks for all your support over the years!

This was sent to users and usersalternate moments ago. Please let me know if you did not receive it, or if you did not get the legacy or domain hostee emails and believe that you should have. Requests to keep your account or have your donations returned must be sent to the Accounts email address rather than mentioned in a comment to this post. However, please free to ask questions in a comment.
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I was checking webmail while at home and I found that a lot of email I can see on web mail is not coming through to my regular POP account. Is there any way to retrive this email that's sitting in webmail? I was wondering if anyone else noticed this and how they went about fixing it. Not a biggy just a bit of a nuisance.

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    chipper chipper

Did I miss a memo? :)

This should probably go to support at, but since it's unreachable for me right now...
[axis@scream axis]$ fetchmail -a
Enter password for
fetchmail: terminated with signal 2
[axis@scream axis]$ ping
PING ( 56(84) bytes of data.

--- ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9016ms

[axis@scream axis]$ date
Wed Aug 27 09:43:59 EDT 2003
[axis@scream axis]$
nice cup of tea and a sit down, gosh!, news

Packet loss into Demon? is on Demon. I usually use it via SSH. I've been getting severe packet loss from two different places: my home DSL on (42% packet loss; round-trip min/avg/max = 34.2/466.2/1029.4 ms) and another shell,, which is on Telenor/Nextra/CIX (46% packet loss; round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 61.119/552.820/1194.121/215.738 ms). Of course, Eclipse<->Telenor and Eclipse<->world seems fine ... How are other shell users doing? Is there an reproducible problem with Demon?
i r teh smrt

velvet's down.

i just got off the phone with narnia, so she's been notified. she already knew, and told me this:

the problem is with the router. they've contacted and are now waiting for them do do their thing (i'm so technical) and when they do, velvet and all its entities will be back up and running.

(no subject)

11:00 PDT, velvet has been down for at least eight hours. (I tried when I dragged myself in last night around 3:00 am, and it wasn't working then either.) I was just reminded that narnee and aidan_skinner are already in Boston, so I don't know if they'll be able to do anything about it, but I have left a message on her mobile...

I don't have any US-based numbers for contacting her. If anybody else does, they might want to give those a try (I think she wants to be notified the server's down even if she can't do anything about it).
all smiles and bemusement
  • narnee

Fixed Problem & Reminder

It has recently come to our attention that those who did not or could not enable SSL in their remote Usenet client were having difficulty connecting to the Velvet Networks news server. This problem has now been fixed, and we apologise for the inconvienence. Thank you to those who alterted us to this.

We would also like to take this opportunity to remind you that you can not currently use Velvet Networks as a SMTP server. This has been and is still being worked on, but it is a process that requires due dilligence to ensure that users can send mail through Velvet Networks without the server being open as a spam relay. In the meantime, please use the SMTP server of your dial-up or broadband ISP. We apologise for any inconvienence this may cause, and appreciate your patience on this matter. We intend to get this operational as soon as possible, and an e-mail will be send to these lists as soon as that occurs.

Thank you for your continued support of Velvet Networks!
cherry blossom

usenet help

I mailed Narnia about this on Friday night, but I was hoping to get it resolved before monday, so I figured one of you may be able to help me.
Last I heard usenet was up, but I haven't been able to configure Free Agent as of yet without timing out.

I'm using and as the servers, does anyone know if that is that correct?